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homecharging·October 29, 2026·@kdelaney_88

Anyone here strictly using level 1 charging at home?

Figured I'd start a new thread on this since it's a little different from the usual "is L1 enough" question. I have a Model 3 Performance on order, and I'm working through the HOA for home charging. I live in a townhome section of an HOA with over 500 homes. Most of the homes have garages, but we don't. The HOA didn't think community chargers or assigned parking pedestals were feasible, so the plan right now is a NEMA 14-50 outlet on the front of the house with the mobile connector. I bought a Lectron extension cable and a storage box for it, since my distance is a bit long. But none of that is installed yet, and the HOA approval process is not exactly moving fast. So my real question is whether anyone here has gone strictly L1 for a stretch, and how it held up. I know there are a few of our neighbors in the townhome section who just run the mobile charger off the outdoor 110v, and nobody has had a problem so far. I'd rather not do that and then have the HOA come after me when I'm trying to do this the right way and help them set a standard. But if the 14-50 gets delayed, I'd like to know what I'm in for if I have to live on 120v for a while. I work from home, so I'm not putting on a ton of miles. I expect to only need to charge every 3-4 days once I'm on 240v. What I can't tell is how much that changes on 120v, and what happens when I do a longer drive and need to catch up. The other thing I keep reading is that in cold weather a big chunk of the L1 trickle just goes to warming the battery. Winter is coming, so if that's real on a Tesla, I'd like to know before I assume 120v will cover me. Does anyone have actual numbers or experience with a Model 3 on a regular outlet below freezing? Also, if anyone has a decent way to run the cord safely across to the car for a temporary setup without making a tripping hazard, I'm all ears. The HOA already made me think hard about cable ramps. Thanks!

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@rgrimsley_October 29, 2026

The mental thing is real. I got an ID.4 a couple of weeks ago and I'm on plain 120V with the VW portable charger. The first 3 or 4 times I charged about 5 hours with no problems. Then last weekend I left it overnight and could hardly sleep, thinking the wiring in my 1976 house would overheat. Nothing happened, but I still haven't fully shaken the worry. I did replace that outlet a few years ago, which helps a little.

@kmcgroryOctober 29, 2026

About a month in on a regular 15 amp outlet here and it's been fine. We do maybe 100 miles a week at best, so 10 a day is way less than what we ask of it. Only thing nagging me is winter around Philly. I keep reading that below freezing a lot of the L1 trickle just goes to warming the battery. Guess we'll see.

@rcalvert_71October 30, 2026

Can't help on the gauge, but the outlet itself is worth checking. I charge a Model 3 nightly on a regular outdoor 120V outlet, and mine died on me once. It looked discolored and the GFCI wouldn't hold a reset. It rained hard that night so I'm not sure that was the cause. Landlord then said no more charging there and offered a 240V outlet if I paid for it. Money's tight and I'm not staying long, so I passed. If you're renting or moving soon, I'd just feel the outlet and plug after a few hours and cap the amps if the car lets you.

@jtesch_82October 30, 2026

I rent a house and the $600-700 quote for a 14-50 at the driveway is what made me stop. Not a crazy number, but it's money into a place I'll never own. I never even asked the landlord, figured it'd be a no. Been running the numbers on just using the regular outlet, 3-4 miles an hour is probably enough for most of my days. Does anyone know if a 5-20 swap on an exterior outlet is a big deal to do?

@tmoreland_October 30, 2026

A 5-20 swap on its own is usually a pretty small job, but it only helps if the breaker is actually 20A with 12 gauge wire behind it. A 5-20 receptacle still takes a regular 5-15 plug, so most EVSEs will fit, but a stock one will still pull 12A, so you might not gain much. Outdoors it needs to be GFCI with an in-use cover. I got quoted $1,250 CAD for a transfer switch on my dryer outlet, so I've gone down the quote rabbit hole myself. A plain receptacle swap should be way under that, so I'd get a quote.

@grayfeather_okOctober 30, 2026

Thanks, but I can't even get an electrician to call me back for a quote, so the swap is kind of moot for me. My plan was to skip the new circuit and buy a 100 ft 240V cord to run my L2 charger off the dryer outlet in the basement. After the cooked EVSE and discolored outlet stories upthread I'm second-guessing that length. How wrong is a 100 footer unless it's really heavy gauge?

@kstavrosOctober 30, 2026

I went the manual switch route instead of messing with the dryer outlet itself. Everything came off Amazon for under $100 all in. Not sure what gauge I'd trust at 100 ft though, so I wouldn't guess on that part.

@rwalsh_71October 30, 2026

I run a splitter off mine and it works great for me. It's what I do day to day, so I can't speak to the specific switch brand, sorry. The 14-30 plus Autel combo should be fine for a few months as long as the dryer isn't running while you charge.

@tkiefer_58October 30, 2026

Mixed luck with splitters here. I bought a Vevor dryer/EV splitter and it wouldn't charge my car at all. The charger and splitter just didn't get along, so I returned it. My dryer died around then anyway, so I swapped in a heat pump dryer and now use the old dryer circuit as a dedicated EV circuit. It's working fine as a short-term fix. I also have a Ting monitor on the house that would alert me if something shorted or started acting funky.

@mdiener_October 30, 2026

Fwiw I'd drop the amps on the Autel too. Mine's on a 30A dryer outlet with a splitter and I keep it at 16A since I don't trust the outlet. 100A service here and it's been fine. Does the MaxiCharger let you set the current in the app?

@dlinneyOctober 29, 2026

Mine isn't an Autel, just a splitter on the dryer outlet, but it's been going over 2 years now with no problems. The one thing is I don't start the dryer while the car is plugged in. The splitter doesn't do anything clever about it, so I just have to remember.

@jpruss_24October 30, 2026

Can't speak to the Autel app, sorry. I'm still at the planning stage on a dryer outlet setup myself. I put an ammeter on my 100A panel and it looks like 20-25A on the charger keeps me under 80%, so 16A seems pretty conservative to me. Mostly I'd be charging overnight with the dryer off, so I'm not too worried about overlap.

@nsorrell_9October 31, 2026

I just use a regular splitter and don't run the dryer and charger at the same time. I haven't added any monitoring or load management, so the only safeguard is me remembering. If the ammeter is already showing you headroom, I'd say the habit is most of the battle.

@kdoyle_83October 31, 2026

I went premade rather than cutting anything. I'm renting and moving in about 2 months, so I bought a 14-30 to 14-50 adapter cord and a 14-50 extension cord, then plugged an adjustable L2 charger into the 30A dryer outlet and set it to 24A. I only tested it, but it gave me about 9 miles an hour on my Hummer, up from 1 on the stock L1 cable. That's plenty until I can get a proper 60A line at the new place. Premade ones come in fixed lengths, so measure the run first. I'd also keep the dryer off while it's charging.

@wrenchtime_87October 30, 2026

Re the extension cord worries: we've been on L1 for a few months with an outdoor outlet, a 10 gauge extension cord, and an EVSE that lives in the car when it's not in use. It's working fine, just not pretty. I'd go heavy gauge and keep the cord as short as you can. The quote I got for a proper L2 was $9,000 because the line would have to run through the house and two brick walls, so I get the urge to avoid a new circuit. For me the annoyance is mostly running and taking down the cable, not the charging speed.

@mtalbot_74October 29, 2026

That $9,000 number is wild but I get it. My panel has the capacity, it's just full, no open slots. Electrician told me I'd need a subpanel or a whole panel swap just to land a 50A breaker, so I'm kind of looking at the same thing. Makes the 10 gauge cord plus a regular outlet sound way less dumb. Is your outdoor outlet GFCI? I keep reading that GFCI can nuisance trip with EV chargers and I'm wondering if that's been a thing for you.

@rtalbot_71October 29, 2026

Full panel here too, 100A service. My electrician said he's fine putting in a 50A breaker with CTs for load management, so that might be worth asking about before you pay for a panel swap. Not installed yet though, I'm still asking him whether it throttles the charging amps or just kills the EV circuit when the house gets close to the limit. I'm going plug-in 14-50 instead of hardwired since I might sell in a year or two and want to swap the EVSE myself later.

@kdelaney_88October 30, 2026

I'm doing the plug-in 14-50 too, mostly because I'm in an HOA townhome and figured a wall connector would get someone complaining. Mobile charger on the outlet was the lower-drama option. I haven't got to the load management part so can't say how the CT setup behaves. One thing I did was go with heavier gauge wire than the 50A needs, so if it all goes fine I can just swap the breaker and outlet for a wall connector later without redoing the run.

@greg_ahlbergOctober 30, 2026

Not much help on the wire cost, but I went hardwired when I upgraded my place in Australia, 240V 24A three-phase (17kW), and the Model S charges in about 3 hours. I'd rather do it once than redo it later. Now I'm putting a 14-50 in the garage for a Model Y, mainly because the Y can't use more than that anyway.

@dkessner_70October 30, 2026

I'm on a 14-50 with a mobile charger and get about 30-36 miles of range per hour, car pulls 32 amps. Never felt like I needed a wall connector. Nice that you can charge at 24A three-phase, but for me the plug does the job. If you're running new wire anyway, 6 gauge on a 50A breaker is plenty for the plug. I'd only go bigger if you think you'll want a wall connector later.

@kmorland_October 30, 2026

I have a 2013 Leaf too, and I'm also a renter who can't change outlets. I looked at a 10 gauge cord and a longer cable. In the end I just used the 15A outlet that reaches the driveway with the stock cord, and it's working fine. If one of your outlets reaches with the stock cord, that might save you the $150+.

@rvasko_October 30, 2026

Not sure on the VW cable, sorry. I'd look in the car's charging menu before assuming the cable does it, since a lot of cars let you pick a lower amp limit there. I'm a renter with a cord running to the street, and my first regular exterior cord had a plug that felt warm after a few hours. A 10AWG one stays cool for me, so I'd go heavy on gauge for a run that long.

@tkessling_October 30, 2026

For a 90-100 ft run I'd be careful. I ran an 80' 12AWG extension from my front outlet up one tree and down another to reach the curb, charging a C-Max Energi on L1. I never felt it get hot, but the Ford EVSE died after 8 months. I can't prove it, but I suspect the voltage drop over that length didn't help it. My electrical knowledge is pretty basic, so take that as a guess. Heat isn't the only thing that goes wrong on a long thin cord. I'm now pricing a 10 gauge (64 ft) or an 8 gauge (75 ft) cord, or a J1772 extender, so I'm not repeating the 12 gauge setup. Capping the amps like you're planning seems smart to me.

@kpelletzOctober 30, 2026

Another one in the cord-too-short club here, and a complete newbie. I just picked up a Bolt EUV. The garage outlet is out because the door can't stay open and the car won't fit with it closed. The outdoor outlet is at least 20 ft from where we park, so the stock cord doesn't get close. The shortest heavy duty 12 gauge cord I could find was at Lowe's, but after reading this thread I'm wondering if 12 is heavy enough or if I should look for 10. A QMerit installer just accepted our L2 job, so this would only be for a few weeks. Does that change how much cord you'd trust, or is the gauge the same question either way?

@rannis_41October 30, 2026

Same boat, SR+ arrives in two weeks. My exterior 120V outlet is about 30-40 ft from where I park, and I can't get an electrician to even call back with a L2 quote. At your 20 ft I'd think the gauge matters less than at 80-100 ft, but I'm at the point where I'd rather go 10 than 12. Short commute, so I plan to charge every 2-3 days and only run the cord while I'm actually charging. Supercharging is about 5 minutes from me, so that's my backup if the cord plan feels sketchy.

@marty_olsenOctober 30, 2026

Late to this, but on the 14-50 vs hardwired question from upthread: I went with the 14-50 for my UMC. I'll only unplug it to take on a trip maybe 2-3 times a year, so the plug isn't much hassle. Paying around $500 for a Wall Connector that's basically a nicer-looking plug didn't make sense to me. And if my next car isn't a Tesla (blasphemy, I know), the outlet doesn't care.

@tcarlisle_October 30, 2026

For me the $500 wasn't about looks. I was just sick of hauling the UMC out of the trunk and packing it back up every time I got home. Now it stays in the trunk for trips and the wall unit handles home charging. I also got about 25% faster charging out of it, but I'd have done it without that.

@nate_wickesOctober 29, 2026

Went the opposite way. I got the wall connector and a mobile connector, and I looked at buying a second mobile one (like $300 plus a separate 14-50 plug) just so I'd have one in the car and one at home. The slightly faster charging wasn't worth it to me, so I just left the wall unit at home and use the mobile one on trips. Also got spare cords with the wall connector when I ordered, so that's one less thing to stress about.

@rdamico_62October 30, 2026

I went the 14-50 route too. I put an outlet in my garage & plugged my Tesla wall connector into it instead of hardwiring. I was told it's better to hardwire, but the plug worked best for my situation & it's been fine for a few years now.

@jtalley_44October 29, 2026

Same here on a Model 3 LR. I moved into a place with a 14-50 and agonized over the Wall Connector, then just tried the mobile connector with the adapter. It's been completely fine. I plug in at night, charging kicks in at 9pm when the rate changes, and it's full by morning. That saved me $500. I got a $20 hook that hangs the cord on the wall. If I ever need a quick top-off, I use a Supercharger.

@dferris_70October 30, 2026

Mine's the opposite of a hardwire person. The mobile connector just lives in my garage plugged into the wall, 99% of the time. It only goes with me on a road trip, and sometimes I don't even bring it then. Never felt like a wall unit would change anything for me.

@tcarlson_81October 30, 2026

Haven't done the swap, but this is basically my question too. I'm putting a 14-50 in my garage and picked up a UMC G1 off Marketplace that'll just stay plugged in. Is the extra amperage from hardwiring actually worth it over 32A at the car?

@rsimeon_58October 30, 2026

Not really, at least for me. I'm on a 14-40 and consistently get 36 mi/hr, and the wall charger gets 44. That's not much of a difference for $500 when the car is full by morning either way.

@pcalderaOctober 30, 2026

Same conclusion on the speed side. I put in a Wall Connector on a 60A circuit, but only because an electrician was already at the house, so the extra cost was small. For me it's the cleaner look and no cable across the walkway. Faster charging is nice but I didn't need it, and I wouldn't have spent $1000 and the hassle just for that.

@kbeadle_October 30, 2026

Not the swap exactly, but I put a Wall Connector on my 14-50 using a cable I bought off Amazon. On my 50A breaker I get 40A and about 38 mi/h. Very easy to do. I got a good deal on the Wall Connector, so for me it was worth it.

@lena_ostrowOctober 30, 2026

Interesting that it's that easy. We're on the 14-50 side too, one for a Tesla mobile charger at 32A and one for a Mach-E mobile charger. If both cars charge at the same time it trips the breaker, so I just schedule them in the apps, Tesla first and then the Ford, inside the cheap 12-6am window. I'm no electrician, lol, so I can't tell if both outlets are sharing one 50A circuit. We're thinking about a Wall Connector for the Tesla and keeping the 14-50 for the Ford. Would turning both down to around 20A be enough to run them together without tripping?

@lgundersenOctober 30, 2026

I've run a 14-50 with the Tesla mobile connector on my 100A service for 4 years and it's been great. I set the charge rate to 25A in the app from 10pm to 6am and never had a problem. Overnight that's plenty, so I wouldn't pay extra to hardwire for the 48A.

@dpoirier_61October 30, 2026

I went 14-50 in my garage too and skipped the hardwire. Mine's a used Gen 1 UMC that just stays plugged in at home, so the stock cable lives in the car for trips. Haven't missed the extra amps at all.

@lvance_29October 30, 2026

Same setup here. 14-50 at 32A gets me about 30 miles an hour, and it's only a little slower than the Tesla wall charger. The 110 outlet I started on gave me about 4. So for me the 48A wasn't worth chasing.

@kpoole_19October 30, 2026

The fire thing isn't just theory for me. A Leviton receptacle melted while I was charging, and part of the charger plug melted with it. I replaced the receptacle, but I don't trust it the way I did. I can't afford to get an electrician back out for a hardwired setup right now, so I'm stuck weighing a plug-in 14-50 against that. Has anyone else had a receptacle melt like that? Did an EV-rated outlet fix it for you, or did you end up hardwiring anyway?

@tgunnell_72October 31, 2026

I haven't had a receptacle melt, so I can't say if an EV-rated outlet fixes it. I did go hardwired on a Wall Connector mounted outside. Part of the reason was not having to plug and unplug it over and over, especially in the rain. The other part was that nobody can pull it out mid-charge just to be a nuisance. If a plug has already melted on you once, that's a good reason to take the plug out of the picture. The one downside is that I'll have to disconnect it if I move. I'll probably just leave it and buy a new one then.

@nkessey_October 30, 2026

The "have to leave it if I move" part is why I'm going the other way. I'm renting, so I'm paying a bit extra to get a 14-50 put in the garage and running my HPWC off it with a pigtail. I don't want to donate a Wall Connector or leave wires sticking out of the wall, and the outlet stays useful for the next tenant. The HPWC just comes with me.

@dcarlin_62October 30, 2026

The pigtail plan makes sense for a rental. My one gripe with hardwired is that our Home Flex on the Mach-E sometimes doesn't come back up right after a power outage. Overall it's been reliable, but I have to go reset it. A plug at least lets you pull it and re-plug.

@rhubbard_44October 30, 2026

I went 14-50 mainly because other people in my house will likely end up with non-Tesla EVs. Otherwise I'd have gone with the Tesla Wall Connector. I've also read that 14-50 wall outlets aren't always meant for regular use, since they were built for ranges and dryers. If you go that way, try to find a sturdier outdoor-type outlet like the ones at RV campgrounds. I'd also get a spare mobile charger as a backup.

@nlevin_84October 30, 2026

Same problem here, so I'm reading this part of the thread closely. I have a Polestar 2 in a rental garage in LA, and the outlet is a long way from the car. The stock cord doesn't reach no matter how I park. The landlord's fine with L1 in writing but refused L2 or a second outlet, so a cord is basically my only route. Has anyone actually settled on a specific heavy gauge cord for a longer garage run? Or is it better to look at an EV-rated extender?

@dwhitaker_October 30, 2026

Kind of in the same boat with my 2011 Leaf. I park in the driveway and plug into the porch outlet, which works, but my stock L1 cord won't reach if I park out by the road. Everything I find that's made for EVs is $150+. Is a regular 10 gauge cord the same idea, or does the Leaf care about it?

@hartley_bOctober 31, 2026

I'm on the other side of this. L1 on my Gen2 Volt takes 13-14 hours, so it doesn't work for me. I haven't built it yet. The plan is a 10ga cord to the unused dryer hookup in my basement, with a 16A L2 EVSE on the end. That's about $350, versus roughly $1,000 for a new 50A circuit and a 14-50. I've been keeping the amps low on purpose, partly because of the heat and voltage-drop stories in this thread. The part I'm unsure about is cutting and reterminating the cord to get it through a wall. Has anyone here done that, or is a premade cord the better idea?

@wpruitt_October 29, 2026

On all the cord questions: I've run a 21 ft 50A EVdance extension with both L1 and L2 outside the garage and it's been fine. I'd still avoid extending the cord to the EVSE, especially with a Tesla mobile connector. The plug's temp sensor ends up far from the outlet, and the outlet is where the meltdown usually starts. A cord with a heavy gauge and a short run helps, but it doesn't fix that. An extension on the car side of the EVSE, like a NACS or J1772 extender, keeps the sensor at the outlet, so I'd lean that way. I'd also cut and reterminate as little as possible and go premade where you can.

@wgarrity_81October 30, 2026

Yes, an electrician can run it a good distance from the panel. It's just conduit and wire, and the cost goes up with the length. On a long run you size the wire up a gauge or two so you don't lose voltage. Mine is outside for a Tesla wall connector and it's hardwired. The 14-50 in my garage is more than enough for the other car, so I wouldn't say distance pushes you either way.

@mwenzel_October 30, 2026

Another vote for hardwired. I bought the ChargePoint Home Flex with the NEMA plug and just removed it, which is how you convert it to hardwired. The NEMA pigtail is in a box in the garage if I ever want it, which I can't imagine. Honestly you're overthinking this.

@tmasterson_October 31, 2026

The winter part is what I keep going back and forth on too. I work 3 days a week, about 15 miles each way, so on paper L1 covers it. But I get a Model 3 LR in March and I don't know how much of the trickle the cold eats, or what happens the week I do a longer drive. An electrician quoted me $1,300 for a 240V outlet and I can't decide if it's worth it. Does anyone know if the battery warming thing is really that bad on a Tesla?

@dgrisby_72October 31, 2026

Good to hear. I'm about to buy a used Mach-E and was going to run it off the garage outlet. I only do about 8 miles a day, and a $7,500 L2 quote killed that idea for me. The one thing I'm still unsure about is the outlet itself, since the house is from 2008.

@kevin_brandowOctober 31, 2026

Same plan here, mostly L1 since we'll move in 2-3 years and I work from home. My driving is local stuff like gym and store runs, plus taking the dogs to parks and trails 3-5 times a week. My wife would use it a couple times a week for work, but we also have a Jeep so it can sit and charge if it needs to. Haven't started yet, so it's good to hear it's been fine for people.

@dpelkey_November 01, 2026

Good to see others in the same spot. The 100A panel and the move next spring are the whole reason I'm skipping the upgrade, so it helps to hear L1 is working for people. I'll report back once the EV6 is here and I've lived with it a few weeks.

@tbarnum_22October 30, 2026

Any real cold snaps yet with the Bolt? I'm leaning toward plain 120V/12A on mine too, but it gets properly freezing where I am, so I'm curious if it still keeps up once the temps drop.

@dpeterman_44October 30, 2026

This is what worries me about my setup. My dryer outlet is in the basement of a 1946 house and I'd need a cord out to the driveway, running the Autel at 24A for a few months. Is a 10 gauge cord enough at that amperage, or do I need to go heavier than I'd do for L1?

@rmoeller_61October 31, 2026

Ok this is making me sweat a bit. Just picked up a 2017 Bolt and nothing reaches, and the manual literally says no extension cord. Mine would only be 25 ft, not 80, so I'm guessing the voltage drop is a lot less of a problem? Can't really modify my electric so a cord is basically it. Is 10 gauge overkill at that length?

@mellison_44October 30, 2026

Condo owner here, used ID.4, and the stock L1 cable falls 10-15 ft short of my spot from the porch outlet. I've been eyeing a 12 gauge 15 footer too. Does a 12 gauge cord run warm at the 12A the ID.4 pulls on L1? I only drive 50-100 km a week so I'd be plugging in maybe twice a week, and I'd only have it out while charging since it's an uncovered lot.

@nbeaumontOctober 30, 2026

Same conclusion here on an SR+ Model 3. I was going to get the wall connector for slightly faster charging and to stop hauling the mobile connector in and out. But from what I read, it won't give an SR any real benefit, so I'm just doing the NEMA outlet now. I'm still trying to get over feeling like I need the mobile connector with me to go to the Taco Bell a mile away.

@jmccall_55October 31, 2026

I don't see the value in the Tesla Wall Connector either, so I'm getting a 14-50. You also don't need to keep the UMC in the car. Public chargers and Superchargers don't use it, so it can stay in the garage unless you're going somewhere with only an outlet.

@kweiss_41October 31, 2026

Yeah, the plug does cap it. A 14-50 sits on a 50A breaker, so you're at 40A continuous, which is 32A at the car. Hardwired on a 60A circuit you can go up to 48A. On my 14-50 now it's plenty, but I've been wondering if you can pull the 14-50 cord off later and wire it in directly if I ever want the extra amps. Anyone actually done that swap?

@gtillman_October 30, 2026

I don't believe you can share a line between a wall charger and a 14-50, or between two 14-50s. The 14-50 is supposed to be dedicated and on a GFI, so each one needs its own circuit. If they're tripping when both cars run, they're probably on one 50A breaker, and I'd get an electrician to look before you add a Wall Connector to the mix. Turning both down to 20A might stop the tripping, but that's a workaround for a wiring question. 14-50 receptacles have also been a source of fires, since they were never meant for continuous high-current loads. That's why I'd lean hardwired for the Tesla.

@mrosner_October 30, 2026

This is basically my situation. I'm getting a Tesla and having an electrician put a 14-50 in the garage. I was wondering if it's worth paying to run wire sized for 60A now, with a 50A breaker for the outlet, so I could swap to a 60A breaker and a hardwired wall connector later. Is that how you're planning it, or does the 60A run change the cost much?

@tmaddox_October 31, 2026

Wrong part of the thread for it, but the cord posts above are my problem too. My closest 110 outlet is too far for the stock L1 cord and I don't have L2 wired yet. Does anyone have a specific heavy gauge cord they actually use, or a brand to avoid?

@jwaddell_October 30, 2026

Same 100 ft problem here. I rent a townhouse-style apt and my measurements put the parking lot just over 100ft from my place. I just leased an ID.4 and the dealer told me an extension cord would be fine, but a quick google says it isn't that simple, so I'm glad this thread exists. I barely drive (one 20 min commute a week plus errands around the corner), so slow L1 is fine for me. I've been looking at a heavy outdoor 15A 100ft cord with the VW charger. After the 80 ft 12AWG story upthread I'm less sure it's safe for the car or the cord. Has anyone actually run something that long?

@tcheney_October 31, 2026

Same situation here. I rent, there's no driveway, and the closest outlet is about 90 ft from where my car is parked. I can't install anything closer. I only want slow L1, around 5 miles an hour, nothing fast. The 80 ft 12AWG story is making me doubt a long cord too. Has anyone run a heavy gauge cord that long for months without trouble? Or is it better to find some other way to shorten the distance?

@sam_kettererOctober 30, 2026

My commute is only 11 miles round trip, so I'm hoping to get away with a lot less than you'd think. I'm planning to borrow the outlet by the grass-watering spot near my parking with a 100ft cord until someone tells me to stop lol. I'd turn the amps way down in the car. Would a lower draw make a 12 gauge cord at that length okay, or is the cord still a bad idea?

@jtoews_88October 30, 2026

Reading all the cord stuff, I'm glad mine at least isn't a distance problem. I just bought an IONIQ 9 and my townhouse has a 6-20 outlet, so plain L1 feels like a waste of it. I'm moving in about 6 months and trying to find a temp charger that works out of the box with a 6-20 plug. Everything I find is no-name stuff on Amazon or used high-amp units on FB marketplace. Has anyone here actually used a certified EVSE with a 6-20 plug, or is the usual answer to just live on public fast chargers until the move?

@dan_ferreiraOctober 30, 2026

Tangent, I can't help with the 6-20 question, sorry. Renting a townhome and looking at a Mach-E, and I'm stuck on the same thing: I don't want to pay to upgrade my landlord's house for L2. My problem is I drive 32 miles each way three days a week and only get about 6.5 hours overnight to charge, so L1 looks like it won't cut it for me. Haven't asked the landlord yet.

@mtessier_64October 31, 2026

I'm a renter too and planning L1 only on a 2022 Niro. My nearest outdoor outlet is about 40 ft from the driveway, and it's a shared box with the washer and dryer plugged into it. Not sure if they're on the same breaker. Would charging on it while the washer is running be a problem?

@mrosko_17October 31, 2026

Can't say for sure on the washer, but I'd look at the panel labels or flip the breaker and see what dies. A washer plus a 12A charger on one 15A circuit sounds like a tripped breaker waiting to happen. I've only had my Bolt a few weeks and haven't tried my own setup yet. Mostly I'll be on plain 120V, and a few times a year I want to run a 50 ft RV cord from the basement dryer outlet out to the garage. Would 50 ft of RV cord be okay for that, or is that still too long?

@larry_ostbyOctober 31, 2026

Reading the cord posts closely because I'm in a similar spot. I just leased an EV6, and we have no garage, only a carport about 40 ft across the back yard in an alley. The panel is maxed out, so a new circuit is off the table. I'm deciding between a 10 AWG 50 ft cord on a regular 120V outlet and a 75 ft 8 AWG cord for an L2 mobile charger off the laundry room. I'm leaning toward the 120V cord for now, since the distance is the same either way and it's the cheaper option. We'll move in a year or two, so I don't want to sink much into it. Has anyone run a 10 gauge cord at around 40-50 ft for months? Did it stay cool?

@tomas_beck4October 31, 2026

Kind of a side question after reading all this. I'm still deciding between a 14-50 and hardwiring, and it'd be outdoors either way. The problem is my breaker is in an awkward spot, so a wall charger directly behind it isn't really an option. Can an electrician run the hardwire a fair distance from the panel, or does it usually need to be close to the breaker? Does the distance change the 14-50 vs hardwire call?

@jlockett_October 30, 2026

On the outdoor part of the 14-50 vs hardwire question: the GFCI breaker plus a quality Hubbell outlet runs about half what a good hardwired EVSE costs, so the plug is cheaper up front. I'd still go hardwired for an outdoor install, though. There's less to go wrong, with no receptacle exposed to weather and no plug to wear out. On distance from the panel, I agree with the last reply that it's mostly conduit and wire cost, so I wouldn't let that push you toward the plug.

@pete_valmontOctober 30, 2026

Haha yeah I'm definitely overthinking it. I'm hiring an electrician either way. So with the plug, I could just unplug the charger and put a newer one on later? And with hardwired it's a whole electrician visit to swap? That's the part I can't work out.

@lhatfield_October 30, 2026

Yeah, with the plug you can pull the charger and put a new one on yourself. Hardwired means an electrician, or at least turning off the breaker and doing the wiring yourself. That's mostly why I'm still going back and forth. I'm leaning hardwired, but I'm also thinking about sizing the circuit for the Wall Connector's max amps so I don't have to redo it later.

@paul_heskethOctober 30, 2026

Do you actually need the Wall Connector's max amps though? It can be dialed down, and at a lower setting it runs fine on 12/2 Romex, which is cheaper than the 6/3 a 14-50 needs. That one also pays for a neutral wire you'll never use. I'd size it for what you'll really charge at.

@mdwyer_62October 31, 2026

Yeah that's where I keep landing too. I'm doing my own hardwire in the next few months and was leaning toward not running a neutral, but the idea of swapping to a NEMA outlet down the road keeps nagging me, so I might just pull it anyway. For the ground I'm planning #8 since that's what I found for a 60A circuit, unless there's an exception I missed.

@jgunnarsonOctober 30, 2026

Does the #8 ground also take care of bonding the conduit body? I'm planning LFNC under drywall into an aluminum LB, and the LFNC isn't a ground path, so I keep wondering what actually bonds the LB. I'm still torn between a NEMA outlet and the Wall Connector, so I'd like to get that part right either way.